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Post Oct 23rd '09, 01:44

Well, MEVIL had the misplaced gumption to change the shotguns to the WSTE-M4. Seriously? One less than 5, and in name only.

Instead of two shotguns, how about having two of something else? If one flak cannon didn't work.... :D
Ergh, replayed some MEVIL and the lameness of the promising railgun raped my creativity. :(
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 01:58

Pfheil wrote:Well, MEVIL had the misplaced gumption to change the shotguns to the WSTE-M4. Seriously? One less than 5, and in name only.

Instead of two shotguns, how about having two of something else? If one flak cannon didn't work.... :D
Ergh, replayed some MEVIL and the lameness of the promising railgun raped my creativity. :(



For when you need to get creative.
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 02:12

Hahhah... I still cant think of a good replacement, but im getting to a cool dual action gun (like the ma-75b)
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 05:22

OH! Just thought of another serious gun-mod sin.
When you change EVERYTHING about the MA-75B... EXCEPT THE DAMN GUN.
Different sound, different name, different shapes, different *theoretical* function...
It means nothing if the damn thing still fires 57 rounds inaccurately for primary, and launches grenades from 7 round belts as secondary.
BULL.
SHIT.
MEVIL's was a GATLING GUN that fired from 57 round magazines? Are you SHITTING ME? And who the fuck puts a grenade launcher on a GATLING GUN?!?!??!?!?!

This is a topic that makes me unhappy. :C
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 06:19

I actually find this engrossing. Congratulations to Envy.
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 15:14

Pfheil wrote:OH! Just thought of another serious gun-mod sin.
When you change EVERYTHING about the MA-75B... EXCEPT THE DAMN GUN.
Different sound, different name, different shapes, different *theoretical* function...
It means nothing if the damn thing still fires 57 rounds inaccurately for primary, and launches grenades from 7 round belts as secondary.
BULL.
SHIT.
MEVIL's was a GATLING GUN that fired from 57 round magazines? Are you SHITTING ME? And who the fuck puts a grenade launcher on a GATLING GUN?!?!??!?!?!

This is a topic that makes me unhappy. :C


The disturbing and profound satisfaction I got from wielding a Gatling gun in the face of soft enemies like it was a medium range chainsaw truly cannot be overstated, and nearly makes up for the fact that it was just the assault rifle in drag. The sound it made! =)
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 20:38

Yeah, but there was nothing quite like "unleashing" a "belt" of ammo into a Devlin and it pretty much ignoring you.
Come on, if 20-30 shotgun pellets will kill it, why not 57 full sized bullets?
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 20:45

Yeah but it might actually be accurate. lol... and i already have a grenade launcher, so that definatly is not goin in. idk, maybe this will be my pistol, like a p-90 thing.
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 21:47

Pfheil wrote:Yeah, but there was nothing quite like "unleashing" a "belt" of ammo into a Devlin and it pretty much ignoring you.
Come on, if 20-30 shotgun pellets will kill it, why not 57 full sized bullets?



Yeah, but how many of marathons weapons have ever made sense? I mean, how many .44 mag rounds can a frail, lightly armored biped really take?
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 22:23

Pfheil wrote:Yeah, but there was nothing quite like "unleashing" a "belt" of ammo into a Devlin and it pretty much ignoring you.
Come on, if 20-30 shotgun pellets will kill it, why not 57 full sized bullets?


I shoot a bob in the head and his stomach gets blown up.

I shoot a pfhor with a grenade...he flies away...and his body explodes at a much later point.

Don't you realise how silly it is to bitch about realistic weapons in marathon?
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Post Oct 23rd '09, 22:44

ima do all i can.
and you're only talking about visuals. I know that bullets go fast, I know that they can be inaccurate, and i can make that happen. i have no idea if you're shooting them in the head (why shoot the head, the damage is equal anywhere anyway!), and i cant compensate for that variable. We aren't bitching about graphics were bitching about reality. Thats what im goin for.
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envy
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Post Oct 24th '09, 09:17

I was actually responding to pheil's bash on M:evil's realism... which I think is silly because M:inf wasn't that realistic to begin with.
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Post Oct 24th '09, 14:41

lol... i realized this 20 minutes later. sorry.
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Post Oct 24th '09, 20:27

I'm not bashing MEVIL on realism, but rather enjoyment. It's not fun to have a completely nerfed arsenal. RED's weapons may have been overpowered, but at least they were fun, ya know?
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Post Oct 25th '09, 12:55

I enjoy realism and/or enjoyment in a map, so I'm easy to please as long as the map has some element of realistic architecture rather than Marathon 1/2 -esque meaningless constructions and some fun element.

Vale,
Dugit
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Post Oct 26th '09, 01:39

I'm not a great mapper, because I can never decide which direction to go.
Pure function, which is mostly just boring hallways leading to the objective.
Or pure architecture, which is pretty but doesn't always make sense, and makes the map next to useless.
Or realism. Like the game Chrome, where buildings are hyper realistic in design, but confusing because nothing does anything.

Oh to be Ryoko and have the best of all 3. C:
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Post Oct 26th '09, 09:54

A balance is always best.
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Post Oct 26th '09, 21:38

Whattya bet Ryoko has a symmetrical face? And legs the exact same length. He's probably ambidextrous.
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Post Oct 26th '09, 22:19

One of my legs is shorter than my other one, so running one direction on the track is so much easier and faster.
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Post Oct 27th '09, 08:58

Really? Well, I do have one foot larger than the other, and my parents refuse to buy a different shoe for each foot...
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Dugit
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Post Oct 27th '09, 19:50

Wow, you guys are screwed up. :D
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Post Oct 27th '09, 19:52

I know. I am both mentally and physically screwed up. It feels gooooood...
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Post Oct 28th '09, 00:34

Back on topic, I felt like drawing guns so I re-read your weapons list...
Where does the recoil element of a railgun come in? The only kinds I know of were the "rail" mounted train cars with huge cannons, and those certainly wouldn't be man portable.

Sooooooo. I'll draw some stuff. Um. Yes.

EDIT: Oh shit. 45mm sniper round is like as big as your head. :|

EDIT2: Which is how big around it is, the length would make a porn star nervous.
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Post Oct 28th '09, 02:07

Gunships shoot 45mm rounds. Along with MASSIVE 105mm rounds, I believe.
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