Aleph One 1.3a1: testers wanted

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Aleph One 1.3a1: testers wanted

Post Sep 8th '15, 04:11

Who wants to be a guinea pig? Try the alpha, tell me what's broken.

Is my computer gonna explode?

There's always that chance. If all goes well, you shouldn't notice much difference from 1.2.1, but here's what to specifically look for:

  • MML and preferences bugs - all XML parsing was completely replaced. The new code is much easier to read and debug, but I did have to write new code for every single MML setting and preference. Aleph One has a lot of those.
  • Brightness setting in Shader - when using the Shader renderer, the original method of adjusting the screen brightness (which never worked well in windowed mode, is deprecated by every modern OS, and flat-out crashes on newer Macs) is replaced with a new approach. This will eventually be used for all OpenGL drawing, including Classic. If you use OpenGL (Classic), please try Shader in this alpha.

Is there anything new?

This is an experiment in crowd-sourced testing. Only download the alpha if you can provide feedback and help find problems. If you're looking for new features, sit tight and wait for the final release this winter.

C'mon, there has to be something good in here.

Okay, there are a few things:

  • Some minor bugs were fixed, including the music-order bug in Phoenix and Eternal, and one of the errors Crater Creator triggered in software mode.
  • Infinity includes Goran's most recent Lava plugin.
  • Marathon includes a higher-res starscape.
  • The "Brightness" setting is restored for OS X users, if you use Shader.
  • Aleph One tries harder to recover when the main window fails to start properly.
  • Aleph One's home page and update-check URLs were changed to no longer point to SourceForge.

So I broke it, what now?

Report bugs in this thread. If it's graphics related, include your OS version number, and your video card or Mac model. Also check the standard advice on reporting bugs.

Note to Mac users: 10.7 or later is required. If you're on an older Mac, stick with 1.2.1.
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Hopper

Post Sep 8th '15, 13:21

Thanks Hopper! So far it seems to work as advertised. I'm on OSX 10.10. I'll let you know if anything breaks
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herecomethej2000
Ledyard, CT

Post Sep 8th '15, 23:28

I will run through Eternal with this and see if fixed things are fixed and if I find anything else broken anew. Thanks!
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Pfhorrest
California

Post Sep 9th '15, 22:27

Notes thus far:

Can confirm that the music bug is fixed.

Noticed an odd graphical glitch on levels that begin with nothing but landscape in view (e.g. Deja Vu All Over Again, Sakhmet Rising, S'pht'ia) but not in all landscape initially in view so long as it's accompanied by some geometry (e.g. To Sleep Perchance To Dream, The Tangent Universe). It looks like what I would guess is drawing the contents of some kind of buffer, as it's variable graphical nonsense that on at least one occasion appeared to be made of distorted pieces of other textures. (It changes even retrying it on the same level). It appears for varying amounts of time, sometimes only a brief flash but once for nearly a second.

This is on a Early 2011 13" MBP with Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB running on 10.7.5 in Shader mode.

ETA: I also had an unexplained crash to desktop a few seconds into "Roots and Radicals", but there was nothing in the Aleph One log, and I forgot to click for the OSX crash report, and then I couldn't reproduce it. Could've just been a fluke. (ETA: Or might it possibly be related to the changed terminal behavior I just started a new thread about? The crash wasn't when loading the terminal, but maybe the existence of a terminal with no #UNFINISHED section causes some kind of sporadic problem? Seems a stretch…)
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Pfhorrest
California

Post Sep 10th '15, 06:39

Yeah, graphical glitches tend to happen when the player's head is outside the level. In Deja Vu, for instance, the player's feet start 2.7 WU above the ceiling, which means you get a view full of void for the first 3.3 WU of your fall. The engine does not adjust the player to a valid position inside the polygon, even though it arguably should.

It's more noticeable in the alpha because Shader smears the void like the software renderer, instead of starting from black every frame. (The behavior of the void is not guaranteed, and map makers are still advised to avoid it.)
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Hopper

Post Sep 11th '15, 02:51

Pfhorrest wrote:I forgot to click for the OSX crash report

I've done the same thing. On my machine at least, even if I don't click through, recent reports are still listed in Console under "User Diagnostic Reports".
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Hopper

Post Sep 11th '15, 06:05

Ah, good to know! Here is the crash report, spoilered:

Spoiler:
Process: Aleph One [1643]
Path: /Volumes/VOLUME/Aleph One.app/Contents/MacOS/Aleph One
Identifier: org.bungie.source.AlephOne
Version: 1.3a1 (20150907)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [131]

Date/Time: 2015-09-09 22:32:53.064 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63)
Report Version: 9

Crashed Thread: 1 Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000

Application Specific Information:
objc[1643]: garbage collection is OFF

Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105e7439f RenderRasterize_Shader::clip_to_window(clipping_window_data*) + 157
1 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105e7528b RenderRasterize_Shader::render_node_floor_or_ceiling(clipping_window_data*, polygon_data*, horizontal_surface_data*, bool, bool, RenderStep) + 465
2 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105cd2548 RenderRasterizerClass::render_node(sorted_node_data*, bool, RenderStep) + 598
3 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105e742ed RenderRasterize_Shader::render_node(sorted_node_data*, bool, RenderStep) + 25
4 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105cd227a RenderRasterizerClass::render_tree(RenderStep) + 142
5 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105e74253 RenderRasterize_Shader::render_tree() + 797
6 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105cce752 render_view(view_data*, bitmap_definition*) + 401
7 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105e25faa render_screen(short) + 1871
8 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105bdaa1f idle_game_state(unsigned int) + 654
9 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105c2b9f2 SDL_main + 5714
10 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105bd7205 -[SDLMain applicationDidFinishLaunching:] + 72
11 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff8a2cfd0e __-[NSNotificationCenter addObserver:selector:name:object:]_block_invoke_1 + 47
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff93c377ba _CFXNotificationPost + 2634
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff8a2bbfc3 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 65
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5d2e2b -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 212
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5d2b91 -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 78
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5d1858 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpenEvent:] + 242
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5d15b9 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 330
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff93c81541 -[NSObject performSelector:withObject:withObject:] + 65
19 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff8a2f27c7 __-[NSAppleEventManager setEventHandler:andSelector:forEventClass:andEventID:]_block_invoke_1 + 101
20 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff8a2f174e -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 283
21 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff8a2f15dc _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 105
22 com.apple.AE 0x00007fff919c4c25 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 200
23 com.apple.AE 0x00007fff919c4b03 _ZL25dispatchEventAndSendReplyPK6AEDescPS_ + 38
24 com.apple.AE 0x00007fff919c49f7 aeProcessAppleEvent + 250
25 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff95febb69 AEProcessAppleEvent + 102
26 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5ce9c5 _DPSNextEvent + 1247
27 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5ce07d -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 135
28 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b5ca9b9 -[NSApplication run] + 470
29 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105bd7834 main + 1223
30 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105bd6d74 start + 52

Thread 1 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1e7e6 kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8d10d786 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 923
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8d10c316 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54

Thread 2:: com.apple.CFSocket.private
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1ddf2 __select + 10
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff93c6cc8b __CFSocketManager + 1355
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f618bf _pthread_start + 335
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f64b75 thread_start + 13

Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1de42 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f17dea nanosleep + 164
2 SDL 0x0000000106365896 SDL_Delay + 102
3 org.bungie.source.AlephOne 0x0000000105dac5e2 StatsManager::Run(void*) + 958
4 SDL 0x0000000106356df7 SDL_GetThreadID + 247
5 SDL 0x0000000106365779 SDL_ThreadID + 329
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f618bf _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f64b75 thread_start + 13

Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1e192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f63594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f64b85 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1e192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f63594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f64b85 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff92b1e192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f63594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff91f64b85 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 1 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000004 rbx: 0x00007fff7a05f1a0 rcx: 0x0000000106de7528 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000000003 rsi: 0x0000000000000000 rbp: 0x0000000106de76a0 rsp: 0x0000000106de7528
r8: 0x0000000000000001 r9: 0x0000000106de7668 r10: 0x0000000106de7538 r11: 0xffffff80002dad60
r12: 0x00007fff7a05e540 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x00007fff7a05f230 r15: 0x0000000106de7668
rip: 0x00007fff92b1e7e6 rfl: 0x0000000000000247 cr2: 0x00000001063f3000
Logical CPU: 0

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0x7fff95872000 - 0x7fff958e8fff com.apple.CoreSymbolication (2.2 - 73.2) <126415E3-3A35-315B-B4B7-507CDBED0D58> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSymbolication.framework/Versions/A/CoreSymbolication
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0x7fff958f1000 - 0x7fff9594dff7 com.apple.HIServices (1.21 - ???) <B012EE97-D1CD-3F4B-812D-9AC7E6852FE6> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices
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0x7fff95977000 - 0x7fff959beff7 com.apple.CoreMedia (1.0 - 705.94) <700C6863-7A8F-34FA-8B1D-7659EC95000B> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMedia.framework/Versions/A/CoreMedia
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0x7fff95d49000 - 0x7fff95d68fff libresolv.9.dylib (46.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <0635C52D-DD53-3721-A488-4C6E95607A74> /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib
0x7fff95d69000 - 0x7fff95dd1ff7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio (4.0.3 - 4.0.3) <9987DC46-2A96-3BA0-B88B-04E573C0AD9B> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio
0x7fff95dd2000 - 0x7fff95dddff7 com.apple.speech.recognition.framework (4.0.21 - 4.0.21) <6540EAF2-E3BF-3D2E-B4C1-F106180D6F20> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition
0x7fff95dde000 - 0x7fff95e0eff7 com.apple.DictionaryServices (1.2.1 - 158.3) <5E2EBBFD-D520-3379-A431-11DAA844B8D6> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices
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0x7fff95f1f000 - 0x7fff95f54fff com.apple.securityinterface (5.0 - 55022.6) <4D6DAF8F-7873-3992-A6D6-478C7664FA39> /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityInterface.framework/Versions/A/SecurityInterface
0x7fff95f67000 - 0x7fff95f92ff7 libxslt.1.dylib (3.24.0 - compatibility 3.0.0) <E71220D3-8015-38EC-B97D-7FDB383C2BDC> /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
0x7fff95f93000 - 0x7fff95f96ff7 com.apple.securityhi (4.0 - 1) <B37B8946-BBD4-36C1-ABC6-18EDBC573F03> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI
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0x7fff95f99000 - 0x7fff95f99fff com.apple.quartzframework (1.5 - 1.5) <21FCC91F-C7B9-304F-8C9C-04F3924F4AE3> /System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Quartz
0x7fff95f9a000 - 0x7fff95fdaff7 libcups.2.dylib (2.9.0 - compatibility 2.0.0) <7D2E5016-A960-3ADE-B042-F74063E79550> /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
0x7fff95fdb000 - 0x7fff96307fff com.apple.HIToolbox (1.9 - ???) <CCB32DEA-D0CA-35D1-8019-E599C8007AB6> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x7fff96308000 - 0x7fff9630ffff com.apple.NetFS (4.0 - 4.0) <B9F41443-679A-31AD-B0EB-36557DAF782B> /System/Library/Frameworks/NetFS.framework/Versions/A/NetFS
0x7fff96310000 - 0x7fff96326ff7 com.apple.ImageCapture (7.1.0 - 7.1.0) <1AD40E02-2126-377B-A0D2-CBB21D932558> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture
0x7fff96327000 - 0x7fff96327fff com.apple.Accelerate (1.7 - Accelerate 1.7) <82DDF6F5-FBC3-323D-B71D-CF7ABC5CF568> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Accelerate
0x7fff96351000 - 0x7fff96379fff com.apple.PerformanceAnalysis (1.11 - 11) <8D4C6382-DD92-37A2-BCFC-E89951320848> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PerformanceAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/PerformanceAnalysis
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0x7fff96810000 - 0x7fff96870fff libvDSP.dylib (325.4.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <3A7521E6-5510-3FA7-AB65-79693A7A5839> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libvDSP.dylib
0x7fff96871000 - 0x7fff968acfff com.apple.LDAPFramework (3.2 - 120.2) <275D4298-C435-3E98-AA25-95D9D0A56550> /System/Library/Frameworks/LDAP.framework/Versions/A/LDAP
0x7fff968ad000 - 0x7fff96a4dff7 com.apple.QuartzCore (1.7 - 270.5) <19E5E0AB-DAA9-3F97-988C-D9A46AFB9C04> /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore
0x7fff96a87000 - 0x7fff96ae2ff7 com.apple.opencl (2.0.19 - 2.0.19) <B05BF605-73B8-328F-A228-6FA59E1FC73A> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenCL.framework/Versions/A/OpenCL
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0x7fff96afc000 - 0x7fff96b3dfff com.apple.QD (3.40.1 - ???) <13ACC7F4-B004-3370-B575-6D06447EE428> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD

External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 18
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 1771
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=219.4M resident=105.4M(48%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=114.0M(52%)
Writable regions: Total=633.5M written=275.0M(43%) resident=306.6M(48%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=326.9M(52%)

REGION TYPE VIRTUAL
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ATS (font support) 32.1M
ATS (font support) (reserved) 8K reserved VM address space (unallocated)
CG backing stores 26.4M
CG image 176K
CG raster data 188K
CG shared images 3480K
CoreGraphics 16K
CoreImage 8K
CoreServices 8824K
MALLOC 543.8M
MALLOC guard page 64K
MALLOC_LARGE (reserved) 192K reserved VM address space (unallocated)
Memory tag=240 4K
Memory tag=242 12K
Memory tag=243 12K
Memory tag=249 156K
Memory tag=251 36K
OpenCL 52K
OpenGL GLSL 1024K
STACK GUARD 56.0M
Stack 10.6M
VM_ALLOCATE 16.7M
__CI_BITMAP 80K
__DATA 20.4M
__IMAGE 528K
__LINKEDIT 54.4M
__TEXT 165.0M
__UNICODE 544K
mapped file 40.4M
shared memory 12.8M
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TOTAL 993.7M
TOTAL, minus reserved VM space 993.5M


I also finished playing through Ch1 in its entirety and the last two levels through the endscreen back to the main menu and found no other bugs. Looks solid to me! Thanks again for all your hard work Hopper. :-)
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Pfhorrest
California

Post Jan 10th '16, 04:21

Please tell me PowerPC will be supported in the final release! This is one of the only games that runs on our systems!!
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 10th '16, 06:51

Hopper said it requires 10.7, so it sounds doubtful.
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Crater Creator

Post Jan 10th '16, 07:33

3371-Alpha wrote:Please tell me PowerPC will be supported in the final release! This is one of the only games that runs on our systems!!

Please get a new computer.
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Wrkncacnter

Post Jan 10th '16, 17:09

Wrkncacnter wrote:
3371-Alpha wrote:Please tell me PowerPC will be supported in the final release! This is one of the only games that runs on our systems!!

Please get a new computer.


I think these "please get a new computer" comments are a little obnoxious. Obviously if someone has the money to get a modern computer they'll get a new computer. Otherwise what's the point of saying that, even as a joke?

@Alpha, on my old Mac I use the Classic emulator to run Forge, and an older version of Aleph One that runs on OS 10.4.1. Is something along those lines an option for you?
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philtron

Post Jan 10th '16, 18:10

I'm on Leopard so the classic environment isn't an option for me and SheepShaver (ironically) runs like such shit on PPC machines so I'm not sure where that leaves me. I might be able to compile a new version since I have Xcode and GCC installed but I'm more of an amateur at that. I'm more experience with HTML than anything else.
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 11th '16, 20:59

There has to be a way we can back-port this to older platforms. Tobias did it to Safari with Leopard Webkit and ClassicHasClass did it to FireFox with TenFourFox. There must be a way.
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 12th '16, 01:28

my risc style determines my post style wrote:there has to be a way

there must be a way

truth to powerpc.png

tertortron wrote:whats the point of saying that

even as a joke
patrick
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Post Jan 12th '16, 02:59

What the hell is a tertor?

And don't say "just look in the mirror".
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philtron

Post Jan 12th '16, 03:05

philtron wrote:What the hell is a tertor?

And don't say "just look in the mirror".

Tertor is the real deal.
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treellama
Pittsburgh

Post Jan 12th '16, 04:29

I smell another Mac vs PC argument rising.
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 12th '16, 14:38

3371-Alpha wrote:I might be able to compile a new version since I have Xcode and GCC installed but I'm more of an amateur at that.

You won't. The new SDL uses APIs that simply aren't available in ancient versions of OS X. But there is good news: Aleph One 1.2.1 will let you play the original games on your PowerMac as long as the hardware keeps working.
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treellama
Pittsburgh

Post Jan 12th '16, 18:04

What type of APIs? Could they be back ported too (yes I'm nuts)?
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 13th '16, 00:46

3371-Alpha wrote:What type of APIs? Could they be back ported too (yes I'm nuts)?


Actually, someone on the SDL forums does have a version of SDL2 that'll apparently work on a PowerPC system running OSX.
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AlumiuN
New Zealand

Post Jan 13th '16, 01:37

I knew it was possible! Just needs a bit of tinkering & determination.
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 16th '16, 02:27

So Hopper, do you think you can find it in your heart to reimplement legacy OS X support by the time of the final release? Like I said before, I'm not that experienced building from source and you could do a far better job than I can.

Oh yes, a special thanks to you AlumiuN for helping to prove my point that back porting is still a possibility.
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3371-Alpha
Veldin Orbit

Post Jan 16th '16, 03:05

loke 4:23 wrote:physician, heal thy 's/self/architectural inadquacy/'
patrick
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Post Jan 16th '16, 04:06

3371-Alpha wrote:Oh yes, a special thanks to you AlumiuN for helping to prove my point that back porting is still a possibility.


Don't implicate me in this, I merely said that it was possible; I still think that it's not the developer's responsibility to ensure that programs work on antiquated systems. If you want it to run on PowerPC, it should be up to you to build it yourself.
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AlumiuN
New Zealand

Post Jan 16th '16, 05:25

No no no, I didn't mean to implicate you, I just wanted to thank you for helping to prove my point. You're the one who helped me find a source to prove to everyone it was still possible. I probably should have posted that in my last post though.
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