ETERNAL IS NOT CANON IN THE MARATHON STORY.

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Post Dec 9th '08, 12:12

ack45 wrote:1:nobody knows, its like that pink stuff you put on sushi.
2:that stuff you do when you graduate and get a job.... or its what you see when you order at hooters.(depending on who you ask)
3:he now resides in my DS's flashcart frantically trying to grow beyond the 8gb I have allowed his existance to continue within.
6:there were no s'pht'kr in that level. The s'pht'kr are a lie.
7:thats not the last level. its a detour due to construction.
8:eliza. she's still in counselling because of it.
9:idk, ask tycho.
10:idk, ask durandal.
11:because I keep him backed up in my mp3 player.
12:no. see 11.


stop beating that long dead horse.
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JohannesG
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Post Dec 9th '08, 21:52

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Maybe I went a little overboard....
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logan

Post Sep 19th '09, 03:04

Ok, umm, SPNK me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bungie refer to Rubicon as Marathon 4, back before A1 was programmed?
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ErisOnline
San Francisco, CA

Post Sep 19th '09, 03:14

I know other fans sometimes consider(ed) it Marathon 4, but I remember nothing of Bungie saying this. Do you remember where you might have heard it?

Edit: I personally remember e-mails posted on the old Rubicon site to the effect that "Rubicon is so good, I think of it as Marathon 4, especially now that BUNGIE LEFT US FOR MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!!" but that's about it.

Edit 2: Here's an archived copy of the page I talked about. Searching it for "Marathon 4" brings up several relevant messages (although I don't think any of these accuse Bungie of selling out! oops). Does any of that look familiar?
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irons
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Post Sep 19th '09, 03:23

Pfhorrest wrote:Eternal also has small references to RED in it; the W'rkncacnter at Lh'owon speaks to you in a failure timeline in Chapter 3, using the same style of broken speech as the W'rkncacnter from RED. I once considered having the Flood-like enemies I wanted for Chapter 5 be the Organics from RED, but decided against that for some reason I don't now recall, to use PiD monsters instead.


Now THAT would have taken me by surprise more than the PID monsters did.

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However, No.
I'm a strong fan of Marathon: RED. But Organics in Marathon Eternal would have just been weird.


Not to mention people would probably stop playing the game simply out of they're "principles".
MoppyPuppy
Lake Nebagamon, WI

Post Feb 6th '10, 23:01

MoppyPuppy wrote:I'm a strong fan of Marathon: RED. But Organics in Marathon Eternal would have just been weird.
Not to mention people would probably stop playing the game simply out of they're "principles".
and not to mention the fact the organics came from the EARTH'S w'rkncacnter (Joshua I think), not this other one. Wait... so did the PiD monsters... uh... nevermind.
VikingBoyBilly

Post Feb 7th '10, 00:00

VikingBoyBilly wrote:and not to mention the fact the organics came from the EARTH'S w'rkncacnter (Joshua I think), not this other one. Wait... so did the PiD monsters... uh... nevermind.

This IS Earth's W'rkncacnter in Eternal. Hence the twist at the end of Ch5's failure branch when we blow up the world this W'rk came from...

Also, didn't both W'rk in RED come from Lh'owon's sun?
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Pfhorrest
California

Post Feb 7th '10, 12:31

I have a Mac Format CD somewhere that came with the marathon trilogy for free, just after it was made freeware, it also came with Eternal and described it as "The Unofficial Sequal to Marathon Infinity", but that could just be Mac Format trying to get people to buy the magazine for the CD.

EDIT: Found the CD.
It was Macworld, not Mac Format, and it only came with Eternal, not the other marathon game.
MacworldCD April 2005.


EDIT2: When talking about Marathon's story, it's best to keep Eternal out of it, but I find it interesting how it was marketted as the "unofficial sequel", the game must have been pretty good.
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Post Feb 7th '10, 22:35

ROFL -- "all 48 levels" -- that means they grabbed Mk V, which was, in point of fact, NOT a "complete game" as they say.

Funny that nobody ever writes to ask if they can include these things. Not that I object in the slightest, but I imagine other people might, so they'd be more cautious about it...

Another magazine once did something similar, including the boldface-caps "UNOFFICIAL SEQUEL" thing. At that time I had described Eternal in those terms in the intro blurb to it on the website, intending to mean "sequential, plot-wise, to Marathon Infinity", i.e. the story picks up where that story picks up, "but not in any way condoned by the original authors of that story". When that other magazine latched onto that phrase like that I changed it to "continues the story of the Marathon trilogy" instead. This magazine looks to be from the same era though, so...
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Pfhorrest
California

Post Sep 16th '11, 21:37

Kinetic Turtle wrote:(although I read somewhere that Alex Seropian said something about the marine and the Master Chief being the same person, but that's unsubstantiated).

I took this to mean that the MC was another incarnation/envisioning of the same archetype as the Security Officer, not that they were literally the same person.
ChristTrekker

Post May 16th '12, 00:07

This is an extremely belated comment, but how do you guys generally feel about[spoiler]the Jarro were humans all along plot point? I imagine some have a hard time accepting it when they're supposed to be ethereal aliens in the Marathon mythos, and this isn't even coming from word of god (Bunjie).[/spoiler]
VikingBoyBilly

Post May 16th '12, 14:31

VikingBoyBilly wrote:This is an extremely belated comment, but how do you guys generally feel about[spoiler]the Jarro were humans all along plot point? I imagine some have a hard time accepting it when they're supposed to be ethereal aliens in the Marathon mythos, and this isn't even coming from word of god (Bunjie).[/spoiler]


http://www.halopedian.com/Human-Forerunner_War

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mchief111

Post May 22nd '12, 19:44

Phortiphy wrote:Bump/Double Post:

Isn't there a PiD2?


Yes, now there is.
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Post Nov 25th '13, 20:29

I love how far this as gone from a thread about how Eternal isn't canon to a history lesson about Infinity to a variety of jokes about the people that don't get Infinity. Did this thread forget to take its ADHD meds?
Danrig123

Post Nov 26th '13, 18:53

I think it's okay for a thread that's six and a half years old to drift off-topic slightly.
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