Pfhorpedia

[Qtekly]

If any of you frequently visit the Marathon wiki , http://marathongame.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page, Pfhorpedia, you'll notice that I (FunEditing is my username) have made some additions to the wiki. I'm planning to add or edit at least one article every evening. If you have a suggestion for how to organise the wiki better or how to improve it, then please tell me. Or join the wiki yourself. More experienced players would know more about Marathon then me, obviously.
It was practically abandoned before I made some additions to it.

I plan on adding monster statistics and images, I've done so for the Hunter and MOAH already, tell me if you like it. And then I'll make more articles concerning levels and eventually scenario's.

Any help is appreciated.

[Pfhorrest]

Pfhorpedia should be abandoned because it does nothing but distract contributors from the true Marathon wiki, Traxus, which desperately needs them.

[Qtekly]

But how are people that don't know Marathon ever going to stumble upon Traxus? It's easier for people to find Pfhorpedia then Traxus. Beacause if they would search a wiki for Marathon they would search it on Wikia.com.
Just saying. We should make both of these wiki's as complete as possible.

[FlawedIntellect]

Perhaps Pfhorpedia can focus more on story elements and Traxus can do more coverage on mods and total conversions, on top of a more general, yet still detailed, coverage on the story of the individual Marathon games? Also, Pfhorpedia should link to the Marathon Story section of marathon.bungie.org for citations on terminal text and story elements.

Also, Phorpedia should have a single page for mods, and a single page for total conversions/scenarios. Each page should point out that this stuff exists, and link to modding resources and to Traxus, stating that more information on mods and scenarios can be found on Traxus and link to Simplici7y and other archives for people looking for mods.

[Tycho X]

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[treellama]

Pfhorpedia should have just one page, which links to Traxus. Search problem solved.

[Wrkncacnter]

Pfhorpedia should have just one page, which links to Traxus. Search problem solved.

[patrick]

Traxus should have just one page, which links to Traxus. Mararthon problem solved.

[ChristTrekker]

Traxus should have just one page, which links to Traxus. Mararthon problem solved.

[Qtekly]

It almost sounds like you guys don't even want Marathon to become more popular.

[treellama]

It almost sounds like you guys don't even want [ads] to become more popular [when there's already an older better ad-free version].

[Qtekly]

It almost sounds like you guys don't even want [ads] to become more popular [when there's already an older better ad-free version].

So the problem with Pfhorpedia, is the ads? because that has nothing to do with it in my opinion.

[Wrkncacnter]

Oh good, this conversation again.

[treellama]

As usual, Wrkncacnter's right:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5900

[Wrkncacnter]

I'm also just going to leave this here, just in case.

[treellama]

I can't remember, was this before $lave was cool?

[irons]

I erased $lave's Cool Period from history after he banned patrick.

[Wrkncacnter]

On the other hand, I was looking at Traxus and it has some issues of its own. For example, this page is ridiculously out of date: http://traxus.bungie.org/index.php/User:BenUrban.

[herecomethej2000]

Well to be fair, Battle for Westnoth is still an addictive game.

[ChristTrekker]

On the other hand, I was looking at Traxus and it has some issues of its own. For example, this page is ridiculously out of date: http://traxus.bungie.org/index.php/User:BenUrban.

It's a (non-encyclopedic) user page. If the user doesn't update it himself, nobody else is going to do it for him—nor should they. If the page had been http://traxus.bungie.org/index.php/alephone_IRC_channel, OTOH, I'd hope Traxusians would keep it more up-to-date.

And yes, BfW can be very addictive.

[NobilityV3]

Pfhorpedia should be abandoned because it does nothing but distract contributors from the true Marathon wiki, Traxus, which desperately needs them.

Still zero edits in the past 30 days even after making this thread (apart from me and Trekker of course.)

[ChristTrekker]

Still zero edits in the past 30 days even after making this thread (apart from me and Trekker of course.)

Yeah, there's been so much new and exciting going on in the Marathon world in the past 30 days⸮ Why isn't everyone keeping the wiki updated?

[NobilityV3]

Still zero edits in the past 30 days even after making this thread (apart from me and Trekker of course.)

Yeah, there's been so much new and exciting going on in the Marathon world in the past 30 days⸮ Why isn't everyone keeping the wiki updated?

What the fuck is this?

With that attitude the Wiki will never get updated since Marathon hasn't been relevant in 10 years. Oh well, might as well let it die. No point of editing or contributing any information to the stubs or missing pages. That four sentence summary for one of the main antagonists in the entire series is really going places.

[patrick]

might as well die

[ChristTrekker]

What the fuck is this?

With that attitude the Wiki will never get updated since Marathon hasn't been relevant in 10 years. Oh well, might as well let it die. No point of editing or contributing any information to the stubs or missing pages. That four sentence summary for one of the main antagonists in the entire series is really going places.

I love Traxus and the Marathon community. But the previous comment (with the 30 day focus) was disingenuous, and I was trying to highlight that. C'mon, we all know we're a small community, and as our game ages we're doing very well if we can maintain our numbers. (Fan communities of many games this age have dwindled to nothing.) Kudos to Treellama and Hopper and the few artists and developers still actively doing Marathon-related stuff. But seriously, if you're going to point at the last 30 days of wiki activity, look at the last 30 days of Marathon activity in general. What's happened? List the developments, go ahead. *crickets chirp* This is why I don't fault people for not investing huge amounts of time in the wiki, despite my own interest in it. I know the audience reading this post knows a lot about Marathon that isn't recorded anywhere in the wiki, and could really expand its size and coverage tremendously if they just took one hour and jotted a few thoughts. (Poke poke, hint hint!) It's frustrating to me that people don't—but I've come to accept it, because I understand people have different focuses in their individual lives. Whenever an interesting tidbit is posted here, I still follow up with, "Hey, that should be in the wiki." But I know with 99% certainty it won't be added.

So if my previous comment came across as rude or snide or condescending or whatever, that wasn't the intent. I've just realized that most people aren't as excited about their "old information" as some of us are. People seem to be more likely to be excited about new information. I'd love Traxus to be an exhaustively encyclopedic resource of Marathon trivia. If Traxus had been around during the heyday of scenario development, things probably would have been different.

So, far from saying we should all just throw in the towel because it's too slow, as you've inferred from my post, I'm saying we should take the long view. Thirty days is too short a period to look at. Some day, Joe Marathoner will get an inspiration to write down a few things, and we'll see a few dozen wiki additions in a week, and then nothing more for months. Or he'll finally turn those new monster design ideas into a sketch and then into sprites, before the project languishes for half a year again. I've learned to be okay with that.