3371-Alpha wrote:If the community produced something other than netmaps for once then I probably wouldn't have said that.
RyokoTK wrote:so the term is basically garbage.
Pfhorrest wrote:And more on topic: Alpha, for a long while I've kinda wanted to try to defend some of your positions a little, but goddamn man, you're making that harder and harder with every post.
RyokoTK wrote:I was actually going to respond to that in serious defense since this is a direct jab at myself and Windbreaker, only to realize that you, as an impotent blithering teenager, have now effectively taken a passive-aggressive millennial stance toward every single person that has contributed anything of any kind to this intellectual cesspit of a game this decade, because we haven't catered to your specific, insignificant, malformed, and retarded wishes that nobody on the goddamn planet gives even a fraction of a thought about. You don't know anything about anything, but you want to make sure that the other six people that still read this dead and insipid forum know very well just how ignorant and banal your inbred thoughts are, as if we need to know how many extra chromosomes you were born with. You are the living, breathing definition of a millennial internet fuckboy, a complete waste of carbon with no skills and no knowledge that expects other people to cater all of their goddamn efforts to your specific imbecilic desires. Your posting is pure bilge, an amalgamation of half-asleep non-thoughts that rational high-functioning people eject from their brains because they spend a moment of self-reflection and realize that said thoughts are completely unintelligible and without merit, but goddamn, you've done your fucking utmost to make sure that you still have all of these asinine, half-witted non-thoughts and that they're saved to the internet for all eternity so everyone can associate the name 3371-Alpha with putrid, stagnant mental waste.
3371-Alpha wrote:I knew that the monitor is nothing more than a giant graph with the pixels on screen being nothing more than the points on that graph (this is the reason they use the term "graphics" when referring to picture quality).
Wow. That's a huge response for me simply calling netmaps worthless.
I'm gonna' tell you a little story Ryoko. When I was in 6th grade, I dismantled an entire computer down to the bare case & reassembled it, and I didn't use ANY documentation. I did so purely by memory. One of the common things I like to do that other people find "weird" is that if I don't know something I will either google it or do book research on it. By the time I was in 7th grade I already knew how a computer monitor worked because of this. I knew that each pixel was made out of 3 sub-pixels (a red, blue & green one) in order to display things in color. I knew that the monitor is nothing more than a giant graph with the pixels on screen being nothing more than the points on that graph (this is the reason they use the term "graphics" when referring to picture quality). In 8th grade, a web-design/HTML elective opened up & I took it. I was one of the top students in the class. 9th grade, we had a game development class where I learned to use GameMaker: Studio. Most of the games we made were mediocre quality when compared to the mainstream game of course, but hey I can say I made a game. Sure, I've never gotten laid, but does that really matter when you have one hell of a future ahead of you?
Frankly, I don't think "millennial internet fuckboy" really matches what I am because of the above.
The reason I'm always getting on this community's ass about netmaps is because I think Marathon/AlephOne has a lot more potential than that. I'd fix it my self, but I don't have the necessary skills (yet). Many of you, on the other hand, do. So it baffles & frustrates me why no one has tried.
Another reason I insulted netmaps is because, frankly, though Marathon had excellent multiplayer for it's time, many other more modern games (halo 1 for example) can do a lot of what Marathon does in it's multiplayer a lot better than Marathon, and many of those games are now free or inexpensive (like in Halo 1's case). The main reason why anyone would play Marathon these days is for it's campaign. It's wonderful campaign.
3371-Alpha wrote:treellama wrote:No, they're not.
Logic tells me that because Marathon was originally a Mac game, most of it's user base will be Mac users.
The built-in archive utility for OS X has no such feature.
zip -r netmaps.zip -x ".DS_Store" netmaps/
Windbreaker wrote:Not really. Netmaps take hours or days to develop. Mappacks can take weeks or months. So when you "simply" toss that thing off as "worthless" it's a direct insult to the time and effort Ryoko and I put into our respective works (and keep in mind, you yourself have admitted these insults were nothing more than that: insults). You'd better expect people who've been making maps for 10+ years to get a little salty when you not only come here demanding other people do all your work for you, but then go a step ahead and insult some of the only content still being created for the community.
Windbreaker wrote:Again, the reason everyone here is turning against you is because you're being a dingus. If Bill Gates started being an asshole and demanding everyone else do his philanthropic work for him, his wealth or "accomplishments" would be besides the point. He'd still be an asshole and that's what people would be writing about.
Windbreaker wrote:What does this even mean? I'm not a developer, I've never been a developer, and I've never claimed to be a developer. I don't think Ryoko has either. And we're the only ones who've made netmaps in the past ~year or so. So because developers don't want to do your bidding, you lash out at other content creators and call their works "worthless"? And you wonder why people are turning against you?
Windbreaker wrote:What the fuck? 17,114 games have been played on the Meatserver since mid-2014. There are rounds online almost every night. It's not as active as other games, sure, but you don't get to say "the reason why anyone would play Marathon these days is for it's campaign" because that's your opinion; it isn't fact. You don't get to call your opinion fact.
Windbreaker wrote:YOU like campaigns. YOU don't find any value in netmaps. And that's fine if it's your personal opinion, but don't be surprised when the community reacts badly to you shitting on content creators for no other reason than "I want these mappers to do something completely out of their wheelhouse, therefore everything else is shit and clearly my opinion is the only one that's valid". I read your post about Fallout 3, and it seems you have a big problem thinking your opinions are anything more than that. Maybe you don't, but that isn't what you've written. We aren't in your mind, we only have your posts to go off, and right now you seem to be making a buffoon out of yourself. The sad thing is, I'm with you on wanting Marathon to be more popular. I wish it were, and I think a lot of us (not all) wish the same. But the way you come here and insult people because they're mappers and not using their non-existent "dev" skills is just weird.
treellama wrote:The Windows versions of Aleph One get the most downloads by far.
treellama wrote:Of course it does:
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zip -r netmaps.zip -x ".DS_Store" netmaps/
treellama wrote:Being a complete ass to everyone on the board is one thing, but please stop posting when you don't have the first clue what you're talking about.
RyokoTK wrote:Might as well just ban him if that's what you want, since every post of his contains misinformation, lies, or ignorance.
3371-Alpha wrote:To be fair anyone can be a developer. Just have to pick up a book. Because most of the developers left around the time AlephOne finally stabilized, no one else is developing the engine besides Hopper. I think it's fair to say he could use some help.
Look, maybe I was being too hasty when I called them worthless. Sorry if I offended you but goddamn! doesn't this community do anything else these days?!
My point was "Millennial internet fuckboy" generally refers to someone who is worthless. Can't a guy be an asshole and still have purpose in life?
To be fair anyone can be a developer. Just have to pick up a book. Because most of the developers left around the time AlephOne finally stabilized, no one else is developing the engine besides Hopper. I think it's fair to say he could use some help.
I've tried Marathon's multiplayer before and it's fun, but in my opinion many newer games do do it better than Marathon. Instead of netmaps, have you ever considered making netscripts for additional game modes? I've always liked Conquest back when I use to play Battlefield. Think you can make a script like that? Another interesting thing to add to Marathon would be vehicles. Perhaps you can implement it in a concept similar to the pigcop patrol craft in Duke Nukem 3D? I see you already have a drone.lua as a starting template.
I never implied they were facts, I just have very strong opinions about things. Frankly, it was the "in my opinion" part that comes before the sentence that was implied.
If everyone in this community starts to hate me because of that, guess what? Fallout is still a piece of shit.
If I get banned because I offend a rabid fallout admin, fallout is still a piece of shit.
The main reason why anyone would play Marathon these days is for it's campaign. It's wonderful campaign.
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