Zephyrus wrote:Off the plot, How so? It is, and you don't know any thing about me, but you, like many others just can't refrain from putting in their 10 cents. You're a prime example of what's called a 'suck up'.
I'm willing to accept this as a starting point, but let's see some reasoning.Contrary to you're belief, yes, there is a clique.
It's awful, if one of you doesn't like something, no one does, if one of you likes something, soon you're all raving about it, if one of you make something, its an instant hit and people can't think otherwise and get away with it.
"If you post in this topic, you will be banned. Not joking." Wow, how horrible of me to follow up on that very clearly-worded warning.you can do what the hell you want with out caring about consequence ie banning people for posting in a certain pigeon lounge topic, banning for not searching, banning for talking too much in a netgame, shunning users, putting users or their ideas down
The a1 community is probably one of the worst online communities I have been apart of. And no, no one is forcing me to come here, thats my own choice.
"I refuse to actually substantiate my claims, even though you've already done the same. You're still evil!"Firstly, I am not going to go quote hunting, I'm staying with my opinion, I'm not going to play games with you.
1000 members in this clique, no, you know well who is in the clique I'm talking about and no, they're not all in the #alephone room either.
It isn't against the rules to disagree. MoppyPuppy was "gunned down" because he had an opinion, and other people disagreed with him, and there was a discourse. That's how these things work. He was probably treated poorly because of his tendency to UNNECESSARILY ACCENTUATE PARTS OF HIS POST and because he believed that monsters teleporting in is a sign of bad mapmaking -- a direct jab at me. Why shouldn't I respond to that?This probably isn't the best example, and I'm using moppypuppy, but I recall of when he said that he thought RED was the best TC available and how he liked it allot, and got gunned down because RED apparently sucks.
Look, all I ask for is a small change, can't any one be nicer, and more welcoming? some new rules maybe?
Zephyrus wrote:Secondly, Manipulative I see, If you check the thread you see that I tried to help in thermo's /r/ topic...................
although cunning as you are, you missed my initial posts... by accident?
That sounds quite constructive to me, hey I tried to help, don't you think, don't you think so irons?
Although I was wrong about the map, and seems like pfhotipfhy totally skipped a few posts in that topic. But finding a post of me insulting pfhortipfhy, shlonking it onto your 8 quote list of done-goods proves what?
Mordekai wrote:I fail to see how one person could force other people to think a certain way.
irons wrote:The worst I see is generally that when someone ignores the search and asks a question, another will help him and firmly but gently remind him that we do have searching for a reason. It just becomes silly when there's a new topic for Damage, Inc., Jumping, and all kinds of shit, every month or two.
Drictelt wrote:How do you think religions survived through history?
irons wrote:QUOTE(irons)I don't pay for hosting on treellama.org because I know the owner (Treellama). My guess is he won't give you hosting, so you should probably start elsewhere. It's been a long time since I used a free host site; most of them aren't that great and I can't really point you to a good one.
My own knowledge of computers and the Internet is actually quite new. I had a Performa 6220 in my room with AOL up until 2001 (it had a 14.4k modem), when I got a G4 tower for my birthday. With a more modern system, especially one with roots in UNIX, I could start experimenting with things like real Web browsers, programs (compiling from source code), and the like. It wasn't until college (2004), however, that I really started to learn about these things. I took a web design course in 2005 and then started playing Aleph One with the Marathon community that spring. I learned about Lua and wanted to start adding things like a carnage reporter and jumping, so I asked a guy down the hall to help me with the basics of computer languages. Once I knew a few things, I started looking up manuals and tutorials online. That's how Lua became my first computer language.
Later that fall, I took a Java programming class because I wanted to increase my knowledge in that field. I learned a lot from it and was able to apply a good deal of the new stuff to Lua scripts. In 2006 I took another course in Java, but I hated it, so that was the last of those. However, at the same time, I began to have an interest in making network maps for Marathon, so I used Forge and other familiar tools to do that. By fall 2006, I switched to Linux as my only operating system (I hate OS X now that they concentrate on adding useless features instead of maintaining a stable and fast OS), and I was frustrated that I couldn't do any kind of map editing. I found a really old document that described the structure of Marathon 1 maps and decided to look at it. I jokingly discussed a Lua-based editor with W'rkncacnter at that time, and then started working on something that would read maps and report certain information (using Lua). I found that Lua lacked a lot of what I needed, so I gave up.
In 2007, I decided to try again, this time with Java. W'rk and I teamed up and created the program now known as JUICE. During the summer, I decided to learn the Perl language in order to replace Lua as my "quick and dirty" programming language; Perl is mainly useful for dealing with text, which is what almost all my quickie programs tend to do.
Here's the funny thing: I see all this stuff as a hobby. I use programming every day now, mainly because it makes certain tasks easier (like formatting text into HTML, etc.) or because I get stupid ideas and decide to work on them seriously. I am a writer at heart, and I prefer writing to doing any of this stuff (except that writing is harder, so I get distracted easily). All of the knowledge I have I picked up piece by piece as I went along, either looking it up online (Google is a good help if you can give it the right search phrases), attending a college course, or asking people who already know (my own friends and room mates). You're what, 14? I was 16 when we finally got broadband, and 18 before I even started learning more than the basics about the modern computer/internet culture. In 3 years, I've learned all of what a lot of the Marathon community sees as my greatest set of skills. If you have the time and patience, it won't take too long.
Pfhortiphy annoys me a lot of the time. Even so, he, and others like him, have sent me personal messages or contacted me through e-mail, and I've addressed their concerns very nicely. This is mainly a lesson to some of the guys who feel less welcome: we're a lot nicer one-on-one than we appear to be "in public." When there's no one else around to spin things one way or another, and when no one else will understand the subtle jokes that drive guys like Zephyrus over the edge, we get down to business.
P.S.--Here's some funny stuff from the new Legends archive that shows how paranoid some people are:
We lost all of the best map makers in the big Bridges and Balconies crash of 2001.
What we have now is a self supporting clique of young map makers.
They rig map votes on FB and in contests.
Select the maps you like, reject the rest and hope we get new map making tools soon.[/quote]
Also, this thread has some of the same complaints by Samus (a.k.a. Zephyrus).Last edited by irons on Mar 5th '08, 17:38, edited 1 time in total.
Drictelt wrote:Great, but that doesnt explain why friendliness toward people asking dumb questions would annoy you.
Zephyrus wrote:And yes I felt the cross ban was relevant, and it was the reason I was banned, which was confirmed in the room afterwards by TK, otherwise ben wouldn't have unbanned me would he?
Pfhorrest wrote:And I'm curious, to everyone who believes there to be a elite clique here: am I a part of it or not? I certainly don't feel like one of the mindless masses, my opinion being swayed by a shadowy cabal of elites; which I suppose must mean that I'm a member of said cabal...
RyokoTK wrote:Also, Pfhorrest isn't allowed to post in this topic anymore. Don't anyone respond to him.
RyokoTK wrote:I'm basically the worst admin in admin history, but my hunger for more power (and blood) will not be stanched so easily!
The One wrote:I think this topic has done a good job of showing just how bad Ryoko is for the community. He's not taking this seriously enough, and it's really a problem.
irons wrote:Serious question, tampon-eater
RyokoTK wrote:I think we demonstrated that I'm doing so much to ruin the community that I'm lashing out at the admin of our rival message board.
I'm basically the worst admin in admin history, but my hunger for more power (and blood) will not be stanched so easily!
The One wrote:You say that with such pride. How does the rest of the pfhorums put up with you? I'm glad Zephyrus has the courage to stand up to you. I know there are more people that agree with us, that Ryoko must be stopped. I'd like to hear what Shadowbreaker has to say about this, since it was his quote that inspired me to make this topic in the first place. Let's help Zephyrus out so the clique doesn't gang up on him so bad!
I think this topic has done a good job of showing just how bad Ryoko is for the community. He's not taking this seriously enough, and it's really a problem.
irons wrote:Stop being a giant douche
$lave wrote:Erm... I think you mean such sarcasm. I'm starting to think you must just be someone's second account, I don't know how else you could be/act so stupid.
The One wrote:When I first joined, I had hopes of adding to the Aleph One experience, but even someone that's willing to put time and energy into a project to help the community gets called names. I guess I'll try to find some other community that will appreciate me more. Have fun being assholes to each other.
Pfhortipfhy wrote:Where was this thread before and why isn't it in the legendary section?
Users browsing this forum: No registered users