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ok ok yeah ive been swaping around on scenarios, but ive come to my senses, finaly. Im bringing it back

------------------------------For all you late-comers and new-arivals-------------------------------------------
Starship Marathon (SM) is the Starship Troopers Total Conversion for Aleph One. This massive game will follow the life of a Universal Security Corps marine, one of the many eliete units that aid the SICON Federation against the Bugs. This game occours after the second movie, long after the Brain Bug capture on planet"P". This game's plot also ties into that of the Marathon Trilogy but, thats for you to find out how!

This Total Conversion will be complete 49 singleplayer levels put out in chapters. Each chapter will have seven levels, making it seven chapters long, don't we all love seven? There will also be 7 net levels to start off with in the first chapter. This TC will feature fimiliar foes from Starship Troopers, such as the Warrior, Taker Beetle and Blister Bugs, but don't get comfortable just yet! The bugs have new breeds and allies including the Ant, and the lethal P'fhor Variant. A nice addition to that carnage that will persue is the new player skins (in 8 bold colors) that add a new look to multiplayer skirmishes!

Game Status:
Enemies:
Tanker Bug / Mantis--(replaces the Juggernaught) [Bosses] {No pussy Brain-Bug in this scenario}
Chariot Bug--(replaces the Tick)
Ant--(replaces the Hunter)
USC Marine--(replaces the Marine)
Blister Bug--(replaces the P'fhor Trooper)
Warrior Bug--(replaces the P'fhor Fighter)
HT War Machine--(replaces the S'pht K'r) {formerly the STK War Machine}
Royal Guard--(replaces the Flicta)
Mobile Infantry--(replaces the BOB)
Roughneck Trooper--(replaces the VacBOB)
Variant Legionare--(replaces the P'fhor Enforcer)
Hopper Bug-- (replaces the Drone)
Arax Spider-- (replaces the S'pht)
Firefly--(replaces the Cyborg)

Weapons:
Shock Staff--(replaces the fist)
.11 Grizzly Combat Pistol--(replaces the pistol)
CG Type-K Shotgun--(replaces the fusion pistol)
Smart Grenade--(replaces the shotgun)
Constrictor Rifle--(replaces the alien gun)
Morita-G--(replaces the AR)
Fumigator 7Kpsi--(replaces TOZT)
Javiline--(replaces the SPNKR)
Variant Construct Machine Rifle [VCMR]--(replaces the SMG)
Federation Flag--(replaces the ball)

Maps:
Chapter1 (Quarintine): SICON Labs, Sinking Feeling, Lock Down, Xenophobia, Orkin Man, Lay Low, Aim High.
Chapter2 (Front Lines): Revele, Shot: Baker, They May Be Slow, Shot: Item, Blackout, Bunkers, Shot: X-Ray.
Chapter3 (Bugbites): The Ants Go Marching 1x1, Bug Hole, The Ants... 2x2, Fly In My Soup, Ant Hill, Castle: Bravo, Fly Swater.
Chapter4 (Spiders Web): Arachnaphobia, Venom, Need More Band-Aids, Castle: Fox Trot, Creepy Crawlies, Bugged Out, Spider Hole.
Chapter5 (Corporate Sponser): Back To Civilization, HT Labs, Ammo Dump, Is This Gun Loaded, Shot: Titan, Does This Gun Go Boom, Saftey Is Off.
Chapter6 (Unwelcomed Guests): ET Go Home, Variants Kill, They'r Everywhere, Shot: Kosen, Ant Trap, Crater Land, Variant Ship.
Chapter7 (HIVE): Into Hell, The Ants... 3x3, Castle: Delta, What Ever Happened To Bravo, The Marathon, Legends Never Die, Taps.


Starting tomorow I will be cranking out monsters in Photoshop and some guns in my sktetchbook to be put up on this topic.

THINGS I NEED HELP WITH:A HUD design, someone who can make weapons in a 3D program from sketches that I will provide, and finally MAPPERS!!!!1
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cool..and i thought I already smelled SM's corpse over there at the orphanage [MUp]

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I promised you I'd help if you made me textures. I'll make you some maps some time.

If you've forgotten, EMR stole those trooper bugs things... those thingy things that look like those things. The thing you wanted me to make.
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This is what i got so far in class today, we had long periods of time to waste so i decided to take a chunk of time to work on the warrior bug. Here is a simple gif of the animation, its not fully refined yet so it will look better in the game.
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OMG you guys should see all the work he has for this tc on his computer!
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OMG you guys should see all the work he has for this tc on his computer!
I bet I've got more. I've got like a gig of carcuses of maps and shapes file copies.
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Shadowbreaker wrote: I bet I've got more. I've got like a gig of carcuses of maps and shapes file copies.
WTF is with you and having to one-up people?
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Hey Diesel,

dunno if you're aware of it, but the monster looks quite unrealistic ( yes I know monsters aren't real ) because the upper body of it isn't moving at all. Bungie had a pretty simple trick in order to get rid of that problem..they just moved the respective bitmaps in the sequence a pixel up/ a pixel to the side to eachother, so the frames wouldn't exactly be on top of each other.

Might very well be that you already know that, after all you said something about it not being totally refined
[MLaugh]

btw, there's a Starship Troopers TC out there for Duke Nuke'em, I remember that it was quite successfull in recreating the movie's atmosphere. Am having this link to an interview with the project guy +2 pix at hand.
Here's the TC's home page ( only the screenshots below 'brand new' are working - media section ).
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Grayswandir wrote: WTF is with you and having to one-up people?
rofl! True that dawg! (rather uncomfortable)
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ok ive finaly got my scanner to work ok for once. i scanned some concepts for 2 of the weapons in the game. the first page is the concepts for the Smart Grenade--(replaces the shotgun):

This page has the concepts for the CG Type-K Shotgun--(replaces the fusion pistol):

im going to get back to work on the warrior bug and work out its "bugs" so it looks better.

if someone with good 3d aplication experance wants to help make weapons feel free to drop me a PM or something and i can get you more detailed sketches.



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also for figure 1 of the shotgun, the "pipes" version; a secondary fireing sequence will be added, allowing the gun to fire all six shots at once. (a very pwnzr weapon isn't it)

Go here to vote on weapon concepts!!!
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Oy, the "Pipes" is very cool. But the "Torque", as seen in a serious sam mod, it's like "Chain-shotgun" it's as powerful as a shotgun, and as fast as 2 firing pistols. Can't wait to see one of those guns in action!
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ok these next two pages are for the Variant Construct Machine Rifle [VCMR]--(replaces the SMG) each concept has its own page. Due to poll dificultys I had to make a seperate poll for these guns. Go here to vote on the VCMR design. Thanks.
Fig.1

Fig.2


fig.2 is very similar to the look and feel of the MG56 "smartgun" used in the film Aliens (this is the design i based fig.2 off of).
MG56 "smartgun":



PLEASE VOTE ON THE NEW GUNS!!!
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HAVE YOU EVEN EVER FIRED A SHOT GUN?!?! YOU COULD DISLOCATE YOUR ARM WITH SIX BARRELS!
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HAVE YOU EVER WORN HEVA TECH MK9 BATTLE ARMOR? YOU CAN FIRE AN 88mm CANNON AND FEEL NO RECOIL!
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no no no, the real responce here is...

ITS THE FUTURE!
weapon mechanics and its development aughta been revamped
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I posted this in my Sketchbook Scenario forum, but it really should be in this one now because it is directally related to the topic. I made this peice of artwork in school on my own spare time (roughly a hour). All of it is done in Photoshop.
This is the UEM Trooper that you will look like in the game (hopefully)

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it might take a while to draw all views all like that...
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lol this is more like promotional work. it would take decadeds to draw all the views in photoshop.
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maybe you could use a 3d model to make it look nice and 3D then just take screens of 8 views? faster and could be done
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3D doesn't work with Marathon very well.
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Mordekai wrote: 3D doesn't work with Marathon very well.
I didnt say using actual 3D objects, make it in a 3D design app then take screens of 8 views to make the sprites , that way he only needs to make one character if you use one of the apps that let you bend joints and stuff (for running and moving)
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Samus wrote: I didnt say using actual 3D objects, make it in a 3D design app then take screens of 8 views to make the sprites , that way he only needs to make one character if you use one of the apps that let you bend joints and stuff (for running and moving)
I use this method for my in progress scenario. It works! and boy, it shure beats the photoshop method greatly. by 3d modeling characters first, you can realy bang out sprites on a deadline!

the only tough part for most is learning the 3d application, and than riging it for sprites
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shongshong wrote: I use this method for my in progress scenario. It works! and boy, it shure beats the photoshop method greatly. by 3d modeling characters first, you can realy bang out sprites on a deadline!

the only tough part for most is learning the 3d application, and than riging it for sprites
Lol, i suppose you could take a full screen shot and crop it to the bit you want. A few PS adjustments (removing any backround stuff left behind, like between arms and legs) and it would look fine...
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heck! even easier than that!
by applying render settings to that of marathons sprites, you dont even have to toutch photoshop! (except saving file format to .PICT)

by setting your rendering background color to that alpha blue, and rendering the sprites at a "small" size with no Anti-Aliasing, it makes sprite development a quick and clean bang out job... only verry repetitiouse.
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wow sounds easy ecxept i have no 3d aplication experiance, looks like ill be doing things the hardway :(
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