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it doesn't matter if it's a first person shooter or a jump'n'run, it's about the story...okay, bungie might not mentioned the marine as a black person, or a human being at all, dunno...but if you take a look at the marines hands in FIRST PERSON PERSPECTIVE while playing and the marines color when playing online, he IS definitely black...or heavy tanned at least...maybe im wrong, maybe im right, only the creator of the marine might know...well, im sure they didn't care about...
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You are also overlooking what I said: I play Marathon almost exclusively online. I don't care about the story; I'm tired of it. That makes me a white guy playing in an online game; the "character" I'm using is technically me.

Also, look at this image again:



Are you telling me the guy's hands are that different from his face? If he's black, whatever, but don't use the hands as evidence.
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This rarely seen image proves that the marine is white! Click Here!!
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Mordekai wrote:This rarely seen image proves that the marine is white! Click Here!!
What are you talking about? That guy is clearly black.
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Maybe Bungie made it hard to tell so that he can be black or white.
It must be hard to tell because if it was, we wouldn't be having this argument.
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This topic is becoming a

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I dunno but the art of the marine was sweet, Nice concept with the weapons.
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Also, if I was a game company to avoid law suits ya might wanna have black and white people... or just make them all red and frget about it.
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This is getting off topic. Post ideas about the marines ethnicity In a different topic please.
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Packard20 wrote:Also, if I was a game company to avoid law suits ya might wanna have black and white people... or just make them all red and frget about it.
I don't know what this has to do with Nathan's art at all, this topic has definately derailed far too much.

Also, great work, my favourites were the p'fhor fighter and the Hulk, although I liked the trooper as well. The Hulk killing bob was great too, and the marine was allright, although I didn't like it too much (no offense, it's still good,just not in my taste).
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$lave wrote:I don't know what this has to do with Nathan's art at all, this topic has definately derailed far too much.

Also, great work, my favourites were the p'fhor fighter and the Hulk, although I liked the trooper as well. The Hulk killing bob was great too, and the marine was allright, although I didn't like it too much (no offense, it's still good,just not in my taste).

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Tommy-TBone wrote:What about his hands ingame though? Clearly black.

Also pretty much all of Craig Mullin's artwork depicts him as black.





I always thought it was pretty cool that he's a black guy. It was probably the first FPS to have a black guy as the main character.
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Anyone else astonished that Ryoko hasn't locked this thread yet?
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Yes, I was thinking it would be locked quite awhile ago..
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I think he's white, but spends a lot of time tanning in G4 Sunbathing.
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Who cares what race he is, he's a cyborg. It doesn't matter. Picture him with whatever race you picture him with. This has definately gone on a long tangent, but we should get back to the topic of this thread. Nathan's art!
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Shang Tsung wrote:FINISH HIM!
According to Matt Soell of Bungie:
Matt Soell wrote:I'm sure I mentioned this somewhere before (for all I know someone's already linked to it) but Reg told me the Bobs were designed to be racially indeterminate. They're neither white nor black but could pass for either, so no one who cared about that sort of thing could be offended.

That didn't stop an angry woman from writing in once to complain we were a bunch of white supremacists because there were no black people in Marathon. Reg was right: people see what they want to see.

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"Reg" here is Reginal Dujour, the artist who created all the M1 sprites. Incidentally, he himself is black, at least according to the Marathon Story Page, March 20th, 2005 (scroll down).

Since the Bobs were meant to be racially indeterminate, it is logical to infer that the player-character would have been made racially indeterminate as well.
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Maybe for this upcoming Marathon film we should have The Rock starring. Is he black? Is he white? Nobody knows....
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Coraxus wrote:[picture from the Marathon comic]
That comic isn't canon.
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